Sed haec ab Antiocho, familiari nostro, dicuntur multo melius et fortius, quam a Stasea dicebantur. Illud dico, ea, quae dicat, praeclare inter se cohaerere. Ita relinquet duas, de quibus etiam atque etiam consideret. Si sapiens, ne tum quidem miser, cum ab Oroete, praetore Darei, in crucem actus est. Quia, si mala sunt, is, qui erit in iis, beatus non erit. Cum autem negant ea quicquam ad beatam vitam pertinere, rursus naturam relinquunt.

Experiamur igitur, inquit, etsi habet haec Stoicorum ratio difficilius quiddam et obscurius. Itaque hic ipse iam pridem est reiectus; Quos quidem tibi studiose et diligenter tractandos magnopere censeo. Utrum igitur percurri omnem Epicuri disciplinam placet an de una voluptate quaeri, de qua omne certamen est? Ab his oratores, ab his imperatores ac rerum publicarum principes extiterunt.

Bonum liberi: misera orbitas. Quamquam ab iis philosophiam et omnes ingenuas disciplinas habemus; Satisne ergo pudori consulat, si quis sine teste libidini pareat?

Cupit enim dícere nihil posse ad beatam vitam deesse sapienti. Voluptatem cum summum bonum diceret, primum in eo ipso parum vidit, deinde hoc quoque alienum; Qua tu etiam inprudens utebare non numquam. Eadem nunc mea adversum te oratio est.

Ut placet, inquit, etsi enim illud erat aptius, aequum cuique concedere. Illum mallem levares, quo optimum atque humanissimum virum, Cn. At hoc in eo M. Virtutis, magnitudinis animi, patientiae, fortitudinis fomentis dolor mitigari solet. Nescio quo modo praetervolavit oratio. Sed ea mala virtuti magnitudine obruebantur. Portenta haec esse dicit, neque ea ratione ullo modo posse vivi;

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Ut enim consuetudo loquitur, id solum dicitur honestum, quod est populari fama gloriosum. Contineo me ab exemplis. Isto modo, ne si avia quidem eius nata non esset. Theophrasti igitur, inquit, tibi liber ille placet de beata vita? Duo Reges: constructio interrete. Neque

solum ea communia, verum etiam paria esse dixerunt. Sed venio ad inconstantiae crimen, ne saepius dicas me aberrare; Sic, et quidem diligentius saepiusque ista loquemur inter nos agemusque communiter.

Atque hoc loco similitudines eas, quibus illi uti solent, dissimillimas proferebas. Bork Traditur, inquit, ab Epicuro ratio neglegendi doloris. Morbo gravissimo affectus, exul, orbus, egens, torqueatur eculeo: quem hunc appellas, Zeno? Haec et tu ita posuisti, et verba vestra sunt.

Si enim ad populum me vocas, eum. Itaque hic ipse iam pridem est reiectus; Eorum enim est haec querela, qui sibi cari sunt seseque diligunt. Scio enim esse quosdam, qui quavis lingua philosophari possint; Huic mori optimum esse propter desperationem sapientiae, illi propter spem vivere. Ego vero volo in virtute vim esse quam maximam;

Dulce amarum, leve asperum, prope longe, stare movere, quadratum rotundum. Videamus igitur sententias eorum, tum ad verba redeamus. Quis Aristidem non mortuum diligit? Res tota, Torquate, non doctorum hominum, velle post mortem epulis celebrari memoriam sui nominis. Itaque eos id agere, ut a se dolores, morbos, debilitates repellant. Conclusum est enim contra Cyrenaicos satis acute, nihil ad Epicurum.

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Qualem igitur hominem natura inchoavit? Nisi enim id faceret, cur Plato Aegyptum peragravit, ut a sacerdotibus barbaris numeros et caelestia acciperet? Si mala non sunt, iacet omnis ratio Peripateticorum. Ut proverbia non nulla veriora sint quam vestra dogmata. De hominibus dici non necesse est. Sin laboramus, quis est, qui alienae modum statuat industriae? Minime vero istorum quidem, inquit.