Quo modo autem philosophus loquitur? Obsecro, inquit, Torquate, haec dicit Epicurus? Quo studio Aristophanem putamus aetatem in litteris duxisse? At habetur! Et ego id scilicet nesciebam! Sed ut sit, etiamne post mortem coletur? Quem si tenueris, non modo meum Ciceronem, sed etiam me ipsum abducas licebit. Et quidem, inquit, vehementer errat; Quem Tiberina descensio festo illo die tanto gaudio affecit, quanto L. Cum ageremus, inquit, vitae beatum et eundem supremum diem, scribebamus haec.

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Tum ille: Tu autem cum ipse tantum librorum habeas, quos hic tandem requiris? An quod ita callida est, ut optime possit architectari voluptates? Occultum facinus esse potuerit, gaudebit; Et non ex maxima parte de tota iudicabis? Non enim, si omnia non sequebatur, idcirco non erat ortus illinc. At modo dixeras nihil in istis rebus esse, quod interesset.

An est aliquid, quod te sua sponte delectet? Bestiarum vero nullum iudicium puto. Nam si propter voluptatem, quae est ista laus, quae possit e macello peti? Duo Reges: constructio interrete. Gracchum patrem non beatiorem fuisse quam fillum, cum alter stabilire rem publicam studuerit, alter evertere. Quis contra in illa aetate pudorem, constantiam, etiamsi sua nihil intersit, non tamen diligat? Sed haec quidem liberius ab eo dicuntur et saepius. Quid ad utilitatem tantae pecuniae? Cum autem in quo sapienter dicimus, id a primo rectissime dicitur. Neque enim civitas in seditione beata esse potest nec in discordia dominorum domus; Aut haec tibi, Torquate, sunt vituperanda aut patrocinium voluptatis repudiandum.

Fortitudinis quaedam praecepta sunt ac paene leges, quae effeminari virum vetant in dolore. Quem Tiberina descensio festo illo die tanto gaudio affecit, quanto L. Si qua in iis corrigere voluit, deteriora fecit. Cuius ad naturam apta ratio vera illa et summa lex a

philosophis dicitur.

Nec vero alia sunt quaerenda contra Carneadeam illam sententiam.

Bork Qua ex cognitione facilior facta est investigatio rerum occultissimarum. Sit hoc ultimum bonorum, quod nunc a me defenditur; Videamus animi partes, quarum est conspectus illustrior; Dic in quovis conventu te omnia facere, ne doleas. Conferam tecum, quam cuique verso rem subicias; Quae diligentissime contra Aristonem dicuntur a Chryippo. Quod non faceret, si in voluptate summum bonum poneret.

Haec para/doca illi, nos admirabilia dicamus. Quod autem ratione actum est, id officium appellamus. Nemo igitur esse beatus potest. Non dolere, inquam, istud quam vim habeat postea videro; Incommoda autem et commoda-ita enim estmata et dustmata appello-communia esse voluerunt, paria noluerunt. Illum mallem levares, quo optimum atque humanissimum virum, Cn. Portenta haec esse dicit, neque ea ratione ullo modo posse vivi;

Quae animi affectio suum cuique tribuens atque hanc, quam dico. Aliter homines, aliter philosophos loqui putas oportere? Quid, si non sensus modo ei sit datus, verum etiam animus hominis? Erit enim mecum, si tecum erit. Expressa vero in iis aetatibus, quae iam confirmatae sunt. Quos quidem tibi studiose et diligenter tractandos magnopere censeo. Sint ista Graecorum; A villa enim, credo, et: Si ibi te esse scissem, ad te ipse venissem. Quia nec honesto quic quam honestius nec turpi turpius. Scaevola tribunus plebis ferret ad plebem vellentne de ea re quaeri.

Nunc ita separantur, ut disiuncta sint, quo nihil potest esse perversius. Sed ille, ut dixi, vitiose. Quodsi ipsam honestatem undique pertectam atque absolutam. Qui est in parvis malis. Solum praeterea formosum, solum liberum, solum civem, stultost; Igitur ne dolorem quidem.

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